Wednesday, November 10, 2010

The Samuel J. McElroy House

I love inspecting old and historic properties. Enjoyable, due to my affiliation with the Historic Building Inspectors Association, and my background dealing with properties listed on the National Register of Historic Places. Every now and then, I have the privilege of inspecting historic or very old properties. When this occurs, I have decided to share my pleasure with you. Such was the case this week as I inspected the National Register Listed "Samuel J. McElroy House" located at 10915 Beatties Ford Road in Huntersville NC.



Realtor's Description:

EQUESTRIAN'S DELIGHT...! Completely restored 19th century home, brought into the 21st century for a special owner who wants an old home with today's amenities. Historic house on National & Mecklenburg County register ... only minutes from uptown Charlotte and lovely Lake Norman...! An additional 10 acres available for sale that abuts the Latta Plantation which has 400+acres of horse trails. The house has been restored, den addition in 2005, great master suite with new bath and fireplace. This unique home also features 8 fireplaces, extensive gardens, in-ground swimming pool, 8 stall barn, smoke-house, 20' X 40' pool, Victorian greenhouse .... Truly one of the most interesting historic homes in the area as featured in Charlotte Magazine.

Architectural Description:

The Samuel J. McElroy House is among the finest and most intact of a collection of vernacular Victorian, two-story, T-shaped farmhouses to appear in Mecklenburg County (including five along Beatties Ford Road) after the Civil War.  The house is situated in a rural setting  just north of  the historic Hopewell Presbyterian Church and the ca. 1800 Latta Plantation.  An operating farm stands to the southeast of the property and an open field is located northeast across the road.  The dwelling's asymmetrical form stands in contrast to the typically balanced facades of I-houses, which predominated in rural Mecklenburg during the 19th century. Built in the late 1880s, the McElroy House is a picturesque mix of vernacular Victorian influences.  Although the original weatherboards were covered with aluminum siding about 1980, (now removed) the exterior retains much of its original decorative woodwork, including the late Victorian sawnwork on the front porch.

The house's gable-front section features a front-facing bay window on the first floor and a sash window with six panes in each sash on the gable-front facade of the second story.  Original sash windows with six-over-six panes survive throughout the residence.  The two-bay, one-room-deep, side-gable portion features the largely intact front porch.  This porch includes pairs of slender wooden, chamfered supports with decorative sawn brackets.  These posts are connected by a sawnwork balustrade.

The main entrance, positioned at the corner of the two sections of the house and leading into the central hall, features a crossetted surround and double doors with four panels in each.  The paired screen doors are highlighted by ornate jig-sawed woodwork. The rear of the house includes a one-story bedroom wing on the north side that is probably original.  Its original gable roof replaced by a shed roof in the early 1980s.  At the south end of the rear facade is a one-story kitchen wing topped by a gable roof that extends to incorporate an original smokehouse.  The two units are separated by a narrow breezeway.  This configuration is unique in Mecklenburg County.

An engaged porch extends along the north and south elevations of the attached smokehouse and originally covered now partially remodeled south-elevation of the kitchen. A presumably original back porch with chamfered, supports and foundation of stone piers wraps around the rear of the smokehouse.  The porch's irregularly-shaped  low-pitched roof is a later modification, and the porch has been partially rebuilt, with several of the original posts replaced with square wood supports, and a simple wood railing erected. All of the roofs on the McElroy House are covered with standing-seam metal sheathing.The interior of the main body of the house is essentially intact.

 The interior follows a central-hall plan, with a parlor on the northwest side (side-gable portion) and a living room and dining room on the southeast side (gable-front portion).  The dining room leads into the kitchen wing, which has been remodelled and enlarged to include a section of the engaged porch on the northwest side.  The original bedroom wing on the north side of the rear elevation has been remodelled as a family room and now also incorporates a portion of this porch.  However, in the main T-shaped block of the McElroy House original vernacular Victorian elements survive intact.  The central hall features an open-string stair ascending  in two runs from the main entrance to three bedrooms in the second floor.  The stairway has turned balusters anchored by a sturdy turned newel.

Original mantels, four-panel doors, and delicately moulded door surrounds survive throughout the interior of the main block.  The mantel in the south front room--the living room--is particularly elaborate. The frieze has a curvilinear motif with raised  curved panels, and three heavy wooden corbels supporting the shelf.  The pilasters also have raised panels topped by moulded caps.  Flanking this mantel are two original closets with doors having two vertical panels, a lingering vernacular Greek Revival trait.  The other mantels--in the parlor, dining room, and three upstairs bedrooms--are simpler, but all reflect the vernacular Victorian style exemplified by the living room mantel. The original ceiling in the living room is covered by a modern rough-finished plaster coating; but all of the other rooms in the main bock of the house have original board-and-batten ceilings. The walls of the house have original plaster, and original hardware, porcelain door knobs, and wood flooring survive throughout.

The McElroy yard, shaded by mature oak trees, comprises a mix of historical and modern elements.  The remains of a fieldstone chimney (perhaps once a summer kitchen, but more research is needed to confirm its original function) stands behind the house to the south.  It is not classified in this nomination as either contributing or noncontributing.  Other contributing and non-contributing resources are listed below:

Tack House Contributing ca. 1885:

This frame gable-front building stands on granite slabs.  It was built to store bridles, harnesses, and saddlery for horses and mules.  Measures about eight by twelve feet.  Present wood-shingled roof put on in 1988.

The Samuel J. McElroy House is architecturally significant under Criterion C as an outstanding example of the T-shaped, two-story, vernacular Victorian farmhouses that were built in the county after the Civil War.  Erected in the 1880s for Samuel J. McElroy, a farmer, the dwelling features one of the more ornate post-Civil War front porches remaining in rural Mecklenburg.  The interior, though not exceptionally decorative, retains mantels with curviliner friezes and raised decorative panels, a turned-post staircase, board-and-batten ceilings, and intact doors and simply moulded door surrounds that exemplify the interior finishes of middle-class farmhouses across the county in the late 19th century.  The house's asymmetrical form reflects the emerging preference among well-to-do farmers in the area for up-to-date picturesque domestic architecture, over the more conservative I-house.  Yet, the basic design remains restrained both inside and out compared to the picturesque styles appearing in Charlotte and other substantial North Carolina cities in this period. The focus of stylistic attention is placed on the front porch and bay window.  The attached smokehouse, which is unique in Mecklenburg County, reflects McElroy's concern for function as well as style in the overall design of his farmhouse.  The tack house, which is the only surviving free-standing farm outbuilding on the tract, contributes to the architectural significance of the McElroy property.

Historical Essay:

The Samuel J. McElroy House was built sometime after November, 1883, when Samuel Jefferson McElroy (1840-1927) purchased a ninety-one acre parcel on what is now Beatties Ford Road.

McElroy was descended from Scotch-Irish ancestry who came to America in 1729 and settled in Cumberland County, Pennsylvania. Sometime later they moved on to Virginia, then to Kentucky. One of the descendents, Samuel Jefferson McElroy, Sr., moved to Waihaw in Union County, N.C., where he was engaged in mining and farming. One of his sons, Samuel Jefferson McElroy, Jr., moved to Mecklenburg County as a young man (he appears as a resident of the county in I860).

A volunteer during the Civil War, McElroy was wounded at the Battle of Gettysburg, where he lost a finger, and was taken prisoner. After the war, on January 16, 1866, he married Margaret Janet Sample (1846-1928) of Hopewell, who was a great-grandaughter of Richard Barry, Sr., a signer of the Mecklenburg Declaration of Independence. They started their married life on the Dr. George Dunlap farm near Hopewell Presbyterian Church, which was part of her father's estate. Samuel and Margaret McElroy had eight children: William Edward; Henry Lynn; John Grier; Carrie Jane (Mrs. John Underwood); Flora May (Mrs. William E. Luckey); Una Dunbar (Mrs. Frank Patterson); Margaret Eugenia; and Martha Ellen. All were active members of Hopewell Presbyterian Church. John Grier McElroy (1878-1958) became an elder of the church in 1907.  He also inherited the homestead from his father in 1928, where he lived and farmed.


Just a few months before his death in 1958, John Grier McElroy sold off fifty acres of the ninety-three he had inherited from his father, and his children, John Grier Jr., Robert Sidney and Samuel Jefferson divided the remainder into three 5-l/2-acre lots. The S. J. McElroy House was acquired by John Grier McElroy, Jr. in the division.

In 1976, J. G. McElroy, Jr. sold a 1.88-acre parcel fronting on Beanies Ford Road that contains the house to Donald C. and Timola B. Moore, who in turn sold it to the present owners, Thomas M. and Mildred D. Snyder, in 1982.

Saturday, November 6, 2010

Baby Jonah - Update

Many of my blog readers followed the story of my great nephew Jonah born with Epidermolysis Bullosa. Articles I wrote about him in 2009 are still some of the top postings read on this blog. I thought that you might enjoy an update. The ideal update has become available with a series of videos made by Brenner Children's Hospital of Jonah's mother telling their story. Get a BIG box of Kleenex and click on this link: http://www.brennerchildrens.org/video/patient/jonah/

You will find access to my past posting on this subject under "Topics" on the right side of this blog.

Visit Jonah's mothers blog at: http://patriceandmattwilliams.blogspot.com/

Tuesday, November 2, 2010

Little House on the Hill

Now and then I am invited to inspect a home and on arrival wish I had found it first. This is one of those houses located North West of Mount Airy. Cedar sided home with rock foundation and chimney situated on two acres sitting on top of a hill in the middle of a former dairy farm. Great-room with two story vaulted ceiling and stone fireplace. Two bedrooms down and master up.  The Little House on the Hill.

View of house from bottom of driveway

Front of house
Front of house

View from front porch
View from front yard
View from front yard
Sorry, I didn't make photos appropriate to show here of the interior, trust me it was just a good! This is one lucky home buyer!

Tuesday, October 19, 2010

Reference Library


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Saturday, October 16, 2010

A Builders Opnion

You do know that builders do not like home inspectors, right? Check out what a builder said about me:

“The quality of a home or building inspection is determined by the experience of the inspector. Chris' vast experience as a general contractor and as a inspector make him one of the most knowledgeable inspectors around. I highly recommend Chris as an inspector both for his hands on knowledge of correct construction techniques as well as his experience inspecting multitudes of homes and buildings."

Find that difficult to fathom? See it here

Garage/Party Room


Do you have a double carport and need a double garage and a party room. Try out this ingenious idea. Add a garage door and WINDOWS. Problem solved - Former Double Carport = Double Garage/Party Room. Yes, you may click on the photo to enlarge!

Saturday, October 2, 2010

Mountains or Mole Hills

NOTE PHOTO OF EXPERT HOME INSPECTOR

This article is significantly edited (if you can believe it) from my May 3, 2003 Newsletter. This was one of my most popular articles.

Have you heard this? “I don’t care for that inspector; he tends to make mountains out of mole hills.” Why do you think that is said? A Home Inspector tends to view a home with an attempt toward x-ray vision determining issues which may not be readily evident. Here are Two examples of hidden damage difficult to discern from visible evidence:

Leaking Window?

A good example of this came up while inspecting, what the Realtor referred to as, “such a happy home.” A repair contractor was replacing wood flooring below a window. To the “happy home” listing agent, end of issue, mole hill resolved. I asked, what had caused the problem and where was the material he removed? He stated that water had come through the window; he had re-caulked it and disposed of the damaged wood.

Walking outside I observed no overhang on the roof and gutters hung directly to the exterior wall. Had he been on the roof? No. I observed, from the crawl space, that the floor repair was extensive. Climbing on the roof I found the mountain. A leaf guard had been installed on the gutter incorrectly sloping toward the house. Water, for an extended period, had been running behind the gutter down through the wall around the window to the crawl space below severely damaging the floor system. How much damage was hidden at the roof below the shingles and inside of the exterior wall?

Unfortunately, this was only one of numerous unhappy home issues causing the buyers mother to frown throughout the inspection, an unhappy buyer, and ultimately unhappy Realtors. With a new Realtor aboard I inspected the next, far more “Happy Home” as was clearly evidenced by the mother's beautiful smile. Now that I recall, after seven years, that first Realtor has never called again. Must be because she cares so much for her clients.

The Thing in the Closet

This had nothing to do with a home inspection. My experience with “The Thing” began with an e-mail from a Realtor, whom I had never met, stating:
Dear Chris: I am calling on you for some professional services for myself. I need to have a mold test conducted. Please contact me at: --- Look forward to hearing from you.
Maybe this Realtor was having visions of a mountain in her own home. Unfortunately, the mountain she envisioned was not the same I envisioned. I responded that I do not perform mold tests, due to their being no official protocol established. Being a Home Inspector, who just loves making mountains out of mole hills, I asked her for additional details.
Our home is 2 ½ years old. About Christmas time, we noticed a white tubular plant with some type of leaves growing in our foyer coat closet. It came up between the floor and the baseboard. I am sending you some pictures of the plant & it's location in my home. We have not bothered the plant at all. It is exactly where it has always been. The floor & lower wall have both a dusty white & black substance--didn't touch the plant. The floor is hardwood--underneath, I am not sure. The 2 closets are on each side of the front door & the whole area is "bumped out" -- see exterior picture. Closet is on an outside wall. Grade is close -- see pictures--not sure if this goes all the way down to the basement. This house is only 2 1/2 years old & we never saw this before Christmas. Could have been growing the whole 2 years up from the ground. We have called the builder & he has not yet called us back. Look forward to hearing from you.

Among the pictures she sent was this intriguing picture at the right, which definitely garnered my interest (Click on it for a larger version):
I believe most “Happy Home” Realtors, had this not been in their own home, would have jerked up the little plant, threw it in the backyard cleaned up the floor and walked away. Mole hill solved. Not me, I like mountains. Later I found out that the husband and daughter had contracted a rash which a dermatologist decided came from “The Thing.”

My e-mail response:
Dad and I have been doing a little research into your little plant. I actually have seen pictures of this type growth before, have personally seen it in forests and in old unoccupied rotting homes, but have not encountered one in an occupied home other than in damp crawl spaces. Based on the information I have so far, it appears that it is what I call a flowering fungus. What appears as flowers is actually know as fruit. It prefers to grow on damp wood in dark damp places. The dust on the floor is spores it produces in its attempt to populate your home. This type of fungus is usually found growing on rotted wood in damp areas. It is not unusual to find these in homes, but it is unusual to find one growing in an occupied area of a home without damp rotting wood. What I am concerned about with yours is not particularly the fact that it exists or how it got there, but where it is getting its needed moisture from which could be an indication of a problem, which may need to be addressed. I am interested in coming to look at it closer.

With visions of a mountain, I conducted an inspection of the subject property limited to issues related to the growth of what appeared to be a fungus in the left front foyer coat closet. (Click on photo for a larger version):

Warping and dampness was noted in the wood floor adjacent to the growth. The moisture readings of the wood flooring, in the area of the warping and dampness, peaked out a moisture meter indicating the wood flooring to be extremely wet. The homeowners were so enamored by the growth that they had not even noticed that the wood flooring was wet and warped. What is the old saying “Can’t see the forest for the trees.” It is generally accepted that this type of fungus must have moisture to survive and grow. Therefore, its very presence is indicative of a moisture problem, which needs attention. Visions of a mountain were traipsing through my head.

Without destructive inspection it was impossible to determine positively what was causing the moisture problem. Based on experience and training it was possible to conjecture what may be causing the problem, which has resulted in the wet warped wood flooring and fungus growth.

My original article goes into great detail about my findings conjectures and recommendations. I will save you suffering through the details by simply stating that I instructed her to have the wet areas ripped out and not to stop until the cause of the moisture was found and repaired in both closets, even though the other closet had no evidence of an issue.

It is very difficult to determine the exact cause of the very evident moisture problem without the use of destructive investigation, which is beyond the scope of a home inspection. This type of inspection is best to be performed by a reputable repair contractor as part of the repair process.

Showing his responsibility, but making it very clear that he didn’t think it was a big deal, the builder agreed to remove the wood flooring. It was clear that was all he intended to do and that he was going to dry out the sub flooring and replace the finished flooring. Fortunately, the homeowner observed the process, how very wet and rotten the sub flooring was, and demanded that it be removed to observe what was underneath, as I had recommended. To their surprise the flooring band below this floor and supporting the two story exterior wall was dripping wet and so rotten that it could be ripped apart and removed with bare hands (click on the picture at the right for an enlarged version). The floor in the second closet to the opposite side of the front door was removed, although there was not evidence of an issue, and the same condition was discovered below that floor. Maybe I do have x-ray vision. Immediately attitudes changed and the homeowner and builder began to treat me differently. Disdain began to change to trust and respect as the contractor ripped out, repaired the damage and installed foundation vents.

What was the cause? Below these closets was a closed un-vented masonry cavity extending from the first floor to below the basement floor probably ten feet deep (click on the picture at the right for an enlarged version). The chimney effect of this shaft was drawing the moisture out the ground below and depositing it on the wood floor system destroying it in the process. Remember, this is a 2 ½ year old home!

What about “The Thing?” Not being a fungus expert, I did an Internet search and made contact with Professor Tom Volk of the University of Wisconsin La Crosse Department of Botany. Here is his response (click on the links, you will not regret it!):
Hi Chris, Greetings from Wisconsin. Thanks for the interesting article. It is interesting to see that fungus indoors. I can give you further information on it. It appears to be a Pleurotus species, commonly known as Oyster Mushrooms.
See: http://botit.botany.wisc.edu/toms_fungi/oct98.html
They are a delicious edible mushroom. However they are well known for their prolific white rot of wood. There are very few health problems associated with it, although some workers in farms where these are grown become allergic to the spores after constantly being exposed to them for several months. However I don't think that could happen in this case because there would not be enough spores. Hope this helps. ---Tom
My conclusion, following contact with the expert? Wood-eating monster from outer space which causes severe incurable rash in humans. I recommend leaving the premises, burning it to the ground to stop the spread of its spoors. Remember, I must make mountains out of mole hills I am a Home Inspector. Don’t you hope I am available when this dastardly little creature attacks your new home? You would think, after doing all of this without charge, that this Realtor would be calling me constantly for her inspections? Not, I don't think that I have heard from her again in the seven years since this happened. Such is the lonely life of a Home Inspector. The better the job the less the Realtors will call.

Sunday, September 26, 2010

Social Networking

OK, they (I am not sure who they are) tell me that I must improve my social networking skills. Here goes, you can now check me out at these social sites (click on logos):

You can learn all about my business background and establish business connections at Linkedin.






Check out home inspection happenings, ideas, recommendations and see photos of my inspections on Facebook.






Yes, I will now be tweeting as "The Yard Dog" on twitter about home inspection happenings, where I am, what I am doing, neat quotes from my reading (I read a great deal) and the things I learn in my sixty year search for wisdom.

Saturday, September 18, 2010

What a client thinks


Unsolicited comment from a recent client:

"Thanks so much Chris, you have been the only cog in this process thus far that has demonstrated exceptional customer service and professionalism!"
Now, that made my day!



Wednesday, February 17, 2010

New EPA Renovation, Repair and Painting Certification


Do you live in, own, deal with the sale of, or intend to perform work (such as repairs following pre-purchase inspections) in any home constructed prior to 1978? Surprise, this new certification requirement will now affect you!



Beginning in April 2010, federal law requires that contractors performing renovation, repair and painting that disturb lead-based paint in homes, child care facilities, and schools built before 1978 be certified and they must follow specific work practices to prevent lead contamination. The recommended actions and practices aren’t new; they began on April 22, 2008. However, the certification requirement, enforcement of recommendations becoming requirements and fines is a very different scenario.

What is at risk? First and foremost is the safety of the children spending time in these homes or buildings. It doesn’t end there. There are new liability issues related to landlords, contractors and Realtors who may be involved with repairs especially if they fail to use EPA certified contractors. If you live in or are involved in any capacity with a home built before 1978, for your welfare and the occupant’s safety, make sure your contractor is properly trained and certified in accordance with the new EPA regulations and uses lead-safe work practices during renovation or they are subject to fines of up to $37,500.00 per violation per day of noncompliance. Put simply, demand to see and be given a copy of your contractor’s certification and the EPA “lead hazard information pamphlet” (click on the photo below). Verify for yourself that all contractors are following proper protective procedures.
For additional information visit EPA’s website at:

http://www.epa.gov/lead/pubs/renovation.htm

Saturday, February 6, 2010

The Perfect Storm Brewing

Some storms are bad but, some are good. I think that a good storm is brewing all around us! I am not alone in my thought! All of the conditions are coming together for this storm to occur and there is only one factor preventing it from hitting us full force. Here are the factors which are leading to a perfect storm in Real Estate sales:
  1. Pent-up demand
  2. High inventory
  3. Low prices
  4. Motivated sellers
  5. Low interest rates
  6. Incentives from government and other sources
What is the one thing preventing this storm from occurring? It is lack of buyer confidence. When this one factor changes, Katie bar the door!

Have you noticed the little blond giving Real Estate advice on the NBC Today Show? Maybe you have seen her on the program Shark Tank. At first I wasn’t very comfortable with what she had to say because she appeared attune to a single market “New York City” rather than the Nation as a whole. Are you aware who this tiny lady is? Maybe we should pay attention!

Being old sometimes has its privileges such as receiving the AARP magazine. A recent article about “Real-Estate Seer” Barbara Corcoran by Laurie Wiegler was titled:

A Tycoon’s Tips
BUY NOW! That’s the hot advice of respected housing expert Barbara Corcoran, who says she’s never seen a better time to purchase a home. “Typically when real-estate prices are low, interest rates are high. This is the first time I’ve seen cheap money and cheap prices simultaneously. This is the good old days we’ve dreamt about.”

Corcoran has a knack for timing. Having parlayed a $1,000 loan into a high-end New York City real-estate firm she started, The Corcoran Group, she sold the company for $66 million in 2001, before the market cratered.

Now, as an investor on ABC’s Shark Tank, Corcoran encourages buyers to jump at the abundance of good deals, “It’s a perfect time to snatch a bargain or to upgrade,” she says. And when does she think the market will rebound? “Real estate is slow to unwind but fast to recover. I suspect we’ll make up for most of the loss of the last four years within the next 18 months.”
I like this tiny blond better all the time! Check out her best selling book (click on the image below).


Plumbing – Caulk Toilet at Floor


There is one issue I count on being different on the residential and commercial properties I inspect. The requirement is clearly the same on both. Commercial building toilets will, most likely, be caulked at the floor and single family residential will not.


Why the difference?

It’s simple, an anticipation of enforcement of codes or a lack thereof. Most builders will not acknowledge such but they default to the minimum of enforcement or generally accepted practice rather than the requirement of codes or manufactures recommendations. Many builders and subcontractors actually learn code when their hand is smacked for failing to meet it not from their foreknowledge of the requirement. Hence no enforcement leads to a failure of compliance. This is an easily observable primary example of this issue. Walk into your bathroom. Is your toilet caulked at the floor? Most likely it is not. Should it be?

When conducting a home inspection I handle this differently depending on the home. On new construction I write up “Toilet Not Caulked at the Floor” as a “repair” item. However, on lived in homes I write it up as a "discretionary improvement". When I started in this business I wrote them all up as a repair item. Why the difference? You can’t imagine the flack I have taken over this. Most homes new or existing, in my service area, have un-caulked toilets. Many home inspectors simply ignore this issue because of all of the flack and conflicting opinions. I call that a cop out on the part if the inspector who should know better than to ignore such an issue. Some counties code enforcement inspectors require that toilets be caulked and some ignore this. You might be surprised to observe that large builders who work in multiple areas usually have their toilets caulked while local builders might not only ignore this but may be vehemently opposed to this practice. I have found the difference interesting and have been observing it for many years. Why the difference? I have found it to be simple. Large builders, working in many areas of enforcement, tend to function at the most restrictive, following codes more closely to keep their employees and sub contractors, who function in the different areas, from having issues with the enforcement officials. For example in my service area I will usually find new construction, in most counties, with un-caulked toilets with the exception of Guilford County where they are much more likely to be caulked. Wonder why?

Why are some builders and homeowners opposed to caulking toilets? The primary excuse is leakage or more correctly easily observable leakage. The thought is if the joint is open water from a leaking wax seal will run out onto the floor making the homeowner aware of a leak before the floor is damaged by rot. Interestingly a small open area in caulk at the rear of the toilet will easily accomplish this although most will refuse to caulk at all. Is there interest in observing a leak or simply their bull headed refusal to change their long standing practice of not caulking toilets?

Why should toilets be caulked at the floor?
  1. Although our inspections are not code enforcement inspections we must consider code issues, especially on new construction, even though we do not write them up as such. The International and Uniform codes clearly show a water-tight seal is required where plumbing fixtures meet floors and walls. Since issues found on new construction are the responsibility of the builder, who is responsible to meet code requirements, enforced or not, I choose to designate this as a repair item which is easily justifiable under current code requirements. On lived in homes this falls on the homeowner who isn’t responsible for meeting current code requirements and most likely required by code or not, at the time the home was constructed, the generally accepted local practice was not to caulk the toilet. Hence the difference as an improvement recommendation.
  2. Manufactures recommendations include that plumbing fixtures should be sealed where they meet floors and ceilings. Interestingly, by default, manufactures recommendations carry the same weight as code in most municipalities. Surprisingly, to some in most situations, where manufactures recommendations exceed the written code the code enforcement official will demand the more excessive be followed. Codes even state where an issue is not addressed in the code that manufactures recommendations are to be followed. That gives the manufactures recommendations the force of code.
  3. Often below a second floor toilet you will observe a stain on the first floor ceiling. Has the toilet leaked? Not necessarily. Where do you think the mop water, water dripping from bathing or leaking at a shower curtain goes when it runs up under an un-caulked toilet? Through the opening in the floor at the pipe and to the ceiling below.
  4. Have you ever noticed or cleaned the obnoxious build up in the joint at an un-caulked toilet? Think that might be a sanitation issue? The Health Department does. Wouldn’t it be easier to caulk the toilet rather than cleaning the open joint over and over on your knees with a tooth brush (hopefully not the one you use later to brush your teeth)? On second thought if you are willing to clean the joint with a tooth brush and then brush your teeth caulking the toilet will not be high on your list of things to do today.
  5. Many experienced plumbers have observed that toilets caulked at the floor are less likely to have leaking wax seals. Why could that be? Easy, Caulking reduces the potential for movement limiting forces on the seal which might cause it to leak.
Is your toilet caulked at the floor? Would you desire for me to write this issue up on a home you are purchasing? Do you think your builder should caulk your toilet?